Fwd: [spurkis@mkdoc.com: Re: Sessions and Users, was: Re: [Pangloss] [RFC] OpenFrame AppKit ideas]

[Chris Croome]

Hi

I think this was supposed to go to the list...

Regarding Steves request for munging the Reply-To header -- have you
read this?

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  http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

Chris

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From: Steve Purkis <spurkis at mkdoc.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 09:49:24 +0100
To: Chris Croome <chris at webarchitects.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Sessions and Users, was: Re: [Pangloss] [RFC] OpenFrame AppKit ideas
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Hi Chris,

On Wednesday, April 9, 2003, at 06:39  pm, Chris Croome wrote:

>Hi
>
>On Wed 09-Apr-2003 at 11:25:57AM +0100, Steve Purkis wrote:
>>On Wednesday, April 9, 2003, at 11:12  am, Jean-Michel Hiver wrote:
>>
>>>Playing the evil devil's advocate, Chris has an interesting exercise:
>>>
>>>1/ What do you need sessions for?
>>>2/ Give a concrete example.
>
>So far the above approach has worked with MKDoc -- no body has come
>up with a concrete example of something that sessions are needed
>for... :-)

True, but then MKDoc uses HTTP authentication which some people prefer 
not to use.  Were it to change is authentication scheme to form 
parameters, it would be silly to submit the username/password on each 
request...

Still - you're right.  You don't need to use sessions, even in the 
above case.  It's all in how you prefer to approach the problem.


>>Right - I see where this is going...  Yes you can make do without
>>sessions, indeed, like any other tool.  But I think I've described
>>my motivation to use them well enough by this point.  So perhaps
>>we can call it a design decision :).
>
>Ah, ha, a classic technique for avioding the question ;-)

I don't think I'm avoiding the question, rather I'm acknowledging that 
the debate will get us exactly nowhere ;-)

As an aside, with the OpenFrame idea I have in my head you can either 
decide to use sessions or not...  entirely up to the developer.

-Steve


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